Why do I still have so much dojo left?

Ruslana
Asked 10 months ago

I've been trying to erase all my dojo, since I had over 1000 overdue in the past...With some effort I got it to about 500 but it's so annoying/demotivating for me, that every day, they jump to over 600 due + about 100 waiting for today + around another 80 for tomorrow, which will of course become more than that, since I try to study while doing dojo as well....

It just takes so much time and I know this has been talked about in the past over and over, and I might just be complayining, but this is really mendokusai :(

Thank you for listening everyone

I agree. I've stopped NihongoMaster about three times when my drills get over 800. It's seriously demotivating, isn't it! I think we should have a setting which lets us set the very most drills we think we could handle per day. Or at least per time. Starting at 20, well maybe 50, and ending at the max.

Tiamo
Commented 10 months ago

Actually Tiamo, I do think that is a nice idea you have there :) Setting where you can put how many drills a day you want! That would help me so much! ^^ and also it would make me feel good about myself once i clear them.

Ruslana
Commented 10 months ago

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I've got them piled up too. I didnt like it but i had to decrease my Drill mastery level. Now it's kinda bearable. What's your mastery level at?

jojkov
Answered 10 months ago

Mine is currently 5. I have raised it to 6 in the past after a long break, but it's been at 5 for a month now. And yours? How far are you all into NihongoMaster? I'm 20% into Beginner, but I started over due to quitting before. So it's a bit of review.

Tiamo
Commented 10 months ago

Well, i am at level 7 but my pace is probably much slower, so my drills dont add up as much as others. I am at 80% of beginner. You continued after long time or started from scratch?

jojkov
Commented 10 months ago

Yeah I gave up several times. I started over a few times. And about a year ago, I started from scratch, but just picked it up again this month.

Tiamo
Commented 10 months ago

Mine is also 5 and I am about 25% thru Advanced. Please don't give up on your Japanese ^^ even 5 - 10 minutes a day can make words and expressions stick :)

Ruslana
Commented 10 months ago

Well, i dont have any grandiose reason to learn Japanese, just doing it for fun as a hobby. But i'd like to use it sometimes, it would make me much more motivated. Hope that so much awaited chat function will help.

jojkov
Commented 10 months ago

wtf Ruslana, i just saw on main screen that you answered 650 drills today :D

jojkov
Commented 10 months ago

I did XD! I took me several hours with breaks but still have over 200 drills a day left - C-R-A-Z-Y

Ruslana
Commented 9 months ago

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Hey Guys! We all know "Drill Creep" can be one of the most frustrating things as you advance in Nihongo Master and we are looking for some good solutions to solve this problem and keep you motivated!

Before I make some suggestions, I want to make sure you guys all know about the ability to pause drill sets from individual classrooms or dictionary and kanji drills? If you go to:

https://www.nihongomaster.com/myaccount/drills?section=classroom

You can say "Hey, I know all these hiragana drills already, and just pause that particular set until you get caught up elsewhere, or leave it paused forever if you REALLY know it. 

If that still doesn't help, then here are some additional ideas Taylor D. and I have to help: 

Idea #1: Create a "DRILL, BABY, DRILL" alert that encourages you to pause all lessons and do a deep dive into your drills. This would include adding new achievements for large numbers of drills completed at one time. You can get a new achievement for doing 100 drills, 200, 500, etc. Extra points means extra motivation! This email alert would be set to not send more than once every week or two. 

Idea #2: Create an option to lower your drill mastery level (though we don't really recommend this). You could set the mastery level as low as 3, which would dramatically reduce your drills, BUT it would mean you could be missing drills that you really needed before you mastered the material. 

Idea #3: Create a "Mastered" button in each drill that allows you to bypass the drill mastery # for the particular drill item (not the whole set) and mark it as "Mastered." The issue here is the same as with idea #2: it would be up to YOU to know when you've really mastered something, and we believe the strength of the program is in the repetition. You might think you have mastered something, but then need to revisit it later. 

Idea #4: Create an option to lower the drill mastery level on a lesson-by-lesson basis. This would mean WAY more control for you guys to say "This lesson was really hard, I want my mastery at a 6" or, "This one was pretty easy, I will leave it at a 3." Then you could play around with those numbers until you hit a sweet spot. You probably will still get some drill creep as you move forward, but it could work towards managing it a lot better. 

OK, those are our ideas, we like the concept of setting a "Daily Drill Limit" but the reality is that those additional drills would just be getting pushed further and further out and the adaptive drill timing is important to the learning process here. 

I'd like to open the floor to any additional thoughts, comments, and suggestions! 

Taylor A.
Answered 10 months ago

I think allowing the user to set a Drill Limit, not by the day, but at a time. Or just have a toggle for the user to say, hey I only want 100 drills thrown at me at a time. They finish those, then ask if they are ready for the next 100 drills, and keep doing so until they are done. If they say, no, I'd like a break, give them a few hours before showing Drills due again. I like the achievements for doing 100,200,500 drills. That would keep the person motivated to keep going until their drills are all done. But I could see people taking advantage of this, by letting their drills slide for a long time and then doing a bunch at once. Just something to keep in mind. More incentive for tackling a high pile of drills - Offer more points, or keep points from going down for a set time. Just as much as "Drill Creep" is a bit scary, "Point Plunge" is also not a good thing, haha.

Tiamo
Commented 10 months ago

I do like ideas No. 2 and 4. I think they can both be pretty useful, especially No. 4. I managed to clear my drills, took few hours but I am glad, I got rid of that scary number. Still I get about 200 drills a day and I wish they just appeared all at once

Ruslana
Commented 10 months ago